Removing caveData (flushing the local cache) should be one of the first troubleshooting steps to take when experiencing weird behavior in CAVE. The cache lives in a folder called **caveData**, hence why this process is also referred to as removing or deleting caveData.
Since the pandemic began, many users have asked if they can use X11 forwarding or ssh tunneling to remotely connect to CAVE machines. **This is not recommended or supported**, and CAVE crashes in many different ways and expresses strange behavior as well.
We highly recommend you [download the appropriate CAVE installer](install-cave.md) on your local machine, if that is an option.
If that is not an option, then the only remote access we recommend is using some type of VNC.
[**RealVNC**](https://www.realvnc.com/en/) and [**nomachine**](https://www.nomachine.com) are two options that are in use with positive outcomes. [**UltraVNC**](https://www.uvnc.com) may be another option, but may have quite a delay. There *may* also be other free or paid software available that we are not aware of.
!!! warning "It is likely that any VNC option you choose will also require some software or configuration to be set on the remote machine, and this will likely require administrative privileges."
This problem is most commonly seen with the direct Windows installation. It can also manifest in the Mac installation, and the root of the problem is not having Python installed properly for CAVE to use the packages.
If the [Windows installation](install-cave.md#download-and-installation-instructions_2) was not completed properly, it is possible to see incorrect behavior when loading certain products. These are derived products which use the local machine to create and render the data. This creation is dependent upon python and its required packages working correctly.
The dataset will be available in the menus and product browser, but when loaded, no data is drawn on the editor, but an entry is added to the legend.

You may see an error that mentions the python package, **jep**.
Known datasets this can affect (this is not a comprehensive list):
- Install the [awips-python.pkg package found on **step 1**](https://unidata.github.io/awips2/install/install-cave/#download-and-installation-instructions_3)
Sometimes yum can get in a weird state and not know what AWIPS groups have been installed. For example if you are trying to remove AWIPS you may see an error:
```
yum groupremove "AWIPS EDEX Server"
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, langpacks
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
* base: mirror.dal.nexril.net
* elrepo: ftp.osuosl.org
* epel: mirrors.xmission.com
* extras: mirrors.cat.pdx.edu
* updates: mirror.mobap.edu
No environment named AWIPS EDEX Server exists
Maybe run: yum groups mark remove (see man yum)
No packages to remove from groups
```
To solve this issue, mark the group you want to remove and then try removing it again: